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Servus zusammen, ich beobachte Blackstone auch schon länger und werde bei 70 eine erste Position (60%) aufbauen 👍 bei 60 würde ich die Position vollmachen aber soweit wirds hoffentlich nicht kommen

Ja da hast du schon recht! 😊 In paar Jahren werde ich mir denken hätte ich mehr gekauft 😃

Tja...das ist immer schwer zu sagen. Ich hoffe, dass die 70 halten und nicht weiter runter geht. Jedoch agieren die Märkte aus meiner Sicht, dieses Jahr irrationaler als sonst 🤭 Dafür kann man, wenn man ein Langzeitinvestor ist, momentan gute Schnäppchen machen....nach dem Motto "heute sähen und morgen ernten". Ich bleibe hier ruhig, da ich blackstone und deren Geschäft, nicht in Gefahr sehe. Eher sogar im Gegenteil...blackstone kann diese unruhig Zeit selber nutzen und fröhlich günstig kaufen (z. B. Immobilien), um sie später mit Gewinnen zu verkaufen.

Was denkst du wie weit es noch fallen könnte deiner Meinung nach? Bin aktuell -10% also nicht so schlimm .. möchte nur nicht das die Position im Depot zu groß wird!

Ich werde zum Jahresende hier noch einmal nachkaufen. Ich sehe blackstone als "too big to fail". Man muss nur Ruhe und Geduld haben.

Kauft ihr eigentlich schon nach oder wartet ihr noch ab? 🤔

Heute schaut’s nicht besser aus 😕

Ich persönlich finde, dass blackstone es doch selber ganz gut ausdrückt.. "our business is built on performance, not fund flows..and performance is rock solid". Ich empfinde es recht ähnlich und wer sich tiefergehend mit diesen Unternehmen auseinandersetzt, seine Historie, Strategie, Erfahrungen, Kontakte und eben Performance...der wird die unglaubliche Stärke dieses Bigplayers erkennen. Ich bleibe hier komplett gelassen.

Wie seht ihr das ganze?

Blackstone has limited withdrawals from its $125bn real estate investment fund following a surge in redemption requests, as investors clamour to get their hands on cash and concerns grow about the long-term health of the commercial property market. The private equity group approved only 43 per cent of redemption requests in its Blackstone Real Estate Income Trust fund in November, according to a notice it sent to investors on Thursday. Shares in Blackstone fell as much as 8 per cent. The withdrawal limit underscores the risks wealthy individuals have taken by investing in Blackstone’s mammoth private real estate fund, which — after accounting for debt — owns $69bn in net assets, spanning logistics facilities, apartment buildings, casinos and medical office parks. About 70 per cent of redemption requests have come from Asia, according to people familiar with the matter, an outsized share considering non-US investors account for only about 20 per cent of BREIT’s total assets. One partner in the fund told the Financial Times that the poor recent performance of Asian markets and economies may have put pressure on investors, who now need cash to meet their obligations. In the US, commercial property is under pressure from rising inflation and interest rates, according to a recent report from the National Association of Realtors. Globally, the mood in property has darkened and some high profile investors have warned of a lack of finance in parts of the sector. The surge in redemption requests come as Blackstone announced the sale of its near 50 per cent interest in the MGM Grand Las Vegas and Mandalay Bay Resort casinos in Las Vegas for $1.27bn. Including debt, the deal valued the properties at more than $5bn. Proceeds from the sale, which was agreed at a premium to the carrying values of the properties, will help with liquidity for BREIT as it meets redemption requests — or be reinvested in faster-growing property assets, said a person familiar with the matter. In October, BREIT received $1.8bn in redemption requests, or about 2.7 per cent of its net asset value, and has already received redemption requests in November and December exceeding the quarterly limit. It allowed investors to withdraw $1.3bn in November, or just 43 per cent of the redemption requests it received. Blackstone would allow investors to redeem just 0.3 per cent of the fund’s net assets this month, it added in the notice. Private capital managers have increasingly turned to retail investors, arguing that high-net worth investors should have the same ability as pension and sovereign wealth funds to diversify away from public markets. Part of the pitch that money managers make is that, by giving up some liquidity rights, higher returns can be achieved. The BREIT fund allows for 2 per cent of assets to be redeemed by clients each month, with a maximum of 5 per cent allowed in a calendar quarter. The fund has retuned over 9 per cent in the 9 months to the end of September, due to rising rents from the properties and dividend payments. Its increase in value is in contrast to publicly traded real estate investment trusts, which have declined sharply in value in line with falling stock markets. In recent years, the fund has been one of the big sources of Blackstone’s growth in assets under management, alongside a private credit fund called BCRED. In recent quarters, rising redemption requests from both funds have worried analysts as a signal of stalling asset growth. “Our business is built on performance, not fund flows, and performance is rock solid,” said Blackstone in a statement sent to the Financial Times that emphasised the fund’s concentration in rental housing and logistics in fast-growing areas of the US and its predominantly fixed rate liabilities.

Artikel dazu in der Financial Times:

Hört sich überhaupt nicht gut an!

https://twitter.com/thetranscript_/status/1598369276750139398?s=46&t=ulMF5uixkSdPsunbv_F4hA

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